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• Bestigors have LA by default, can upgrade to HA. Can switch GW's with halberds for free. • Minotaurs 47 pts.

Also, I'd change it to stubborn because unbreakable core troops are a little bit meh. - Hell Pit Abomination: Too Horrible to Die 4 - 5: There is the number indicating the strength of the hits missing. - Lore of Stealth: Warp Stars are ridiculously overpowered!

Razorgor Herds, i'd echo the complaint that they have to be 3+ units, I think they were just fine as they were,To be honest I don't think your rationale that the fluff says they are gathered in numbers once very so often holds up. I like to collect big armies, and without using the same units over and over it used to be hard to make 25% with BM. With the reduction in cost (which I like overall) its becomes even harder.

Same with Bestigors, they should be on the same level as Black Orcs, as they are now. - I don't think Life or Light fits with the beastmen, since they are kind of into killing thigns rather than giving them life, and Dark Magic is for Dark Elves. Likewise, I don't want Beastmen to just be another Chaos army, so I'd rather have them keep Lore of the Wild than give themt he Chaos lores. - I considered Chimeras, but they live in the mountains rather than the forests.

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The Plague Priest should be looked at as more of a Warrior Priest than a Wizard. Giving the Plague Lord T6 would be way too much! - Plague Monks should have I3, yes. Plague Priests have I5, same as the last book, which is 2 more than a basic trooper of their kind. - They also had one attack less. I'm fine with nerfing their WS by 1 though. - I gave them stats similar to the 6th ed appendix where they had better stats.

But I'm fine with nerfing them a bit too. If I would add the exalted Vermin Lord, that would screw up a lot of the layout, meaning it would still be more than 169, so it's not really worth it;). Thanks Mathias! A few things that I've noticed: - Screaming Bell: There is no maximum regarind how many dice one can roll (I suppose you simply forgot the sentence with 1 to 3 dice?) - The Plague Furnance is unbreakable and thus cannot join units that are not unbreakable.

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Makes it less unreliable and also means that a Wargor isn't mandatory for every beastman army. *Manbane instead grants the whole unit Hatred (Humans) that lasts for every turn. *Beastman Ambush replaced with Gor and Ungor units being able to purchase Ambusher deployment for 1pt per model. Special Characters that modify Beastman Ambush instead modify the Ambushers rule. *Ungor Raiders get moved to special and become Scouts.

The book should hopefully be a bit easier to use without the need for a 6 page FAQ (and if need be, I'll patch the book as usual). Let me know of what changes you like, dislike, and want to see me fed to a Rat Ogre for, as well as the usual bugs that I'm sure are still present. Updated: 16th Oct Changes are in the comments. There's a typo in your army list where the special rule for the Skavenslaves is written as 'Corned Rats' rather than 'Cornered Rats'. Also, you book seems to have suffered a bit from copy/paste syndrome.

Or both would make them really awesome! I definitely agree with the comments that Minotaurs should have access to marks. I can see why it should be restricted to differentiate between other Chaos armies, but Minotaurs would gain the gods favour because they are, well Minotaurs!! On the topic of Marks, I didn't see any rules saying that Characters with marks can only join units that have the same mark or no mark as it is in WoC, is this deliberate?

- Will dump down Minotaurs to 42 pts. - Will make centigors 18 pts (without LA), +1 cavalry save is already included, as they are Cavalry by their unit type. - The official models have AHW's, other companies make models with GW's, so just more options. - Will make Cygor and Jabber 175 pts, Jabber will also get a 4+ save (ofc they should have scaly skin!), will make Ghorgon 225 pts.

Wolf-rats are generally brown or g.rey in colour, although mottled and even white individuals are not unknown. Alignment: Horribly mutated and definitely Chaotic.

I like to collect big armies, and without using the same units over and over it used to be hard to make 25% with BM. With the reduction in cost (which I like overall) its becomes even harder.

- 95 Minotaurs: Minos lost the option for heavy armour and cannot properly pursue due to bloodgreed. They still are far too expensive if they are to stay like this. I'd prefer them being able to pursue as normal and a slightly reduced cost, though. - 95 Centigors: With the worse armour save and random effect still not worth considering despite lower cost. My suggestion: Let them choose the effect of Drunken, add a statement that they get a 6+ natural armour save because they are cavalry and include the light armour in the cost of 20 - 96 Chaos Trolls: Options for Great Weapons feel a bit odd here - 97 Cygor, Jabberslythe and Chaos Giant are still too expensive. Cygor would be fine with about 170 points, Jabberslythe needs 4+ scaly skin save and due to the loss of flying also a cost reduction to maybe 160 points. Don't know abot Ghorgon and Preyton right now; they both appear to be a little expensive as well due to the lack of any saving throws.

Makes it less unreliable and also means that a Wargor isn't mandatory for every beastman army. *Manbane instead grants the whole unit Hatred (Humans) that lasts for every turn. *Beastman Ambush replaced with Gor and Ungor units being able to purchase Ambusher deployment for 1pt per model. Special Characters that modify Beastman Ambush instead modify the Ambushers rule. *Ungor Raiders get moved to special and become Scouts. *Ungor Raiders may spend a point to upgrade their short bows to bows, slings or javelins. *Ungor units no longer have a shield by default and are dropped to 3pts per model (they can spend a point to buy it back) they also gain the options to purchase throwing weapons/shortbows for 1pt and can purchase bows, slings or javelins for 2pts.

Today, they are overpriced and nowhere near as durable as they used to be. Essentially, they're now a casualty of 8th edition; pity that WHFB had to be rebooted because of an made by a particular.

I noticed you did it with Skaven, moving the Plague Monks, so how about Beastmen? Not sure who, possibly Bestigors, Centigors or Minotaurs (I'd love to do a Minotaur War-Herd, unless that's a future project, i'm sure I remember one in a really old White Dwarf!!) Dragon Ogres, I love the models but don't collect WoC, I think they fit for fighting alongside BM, so i'd love to see them as a Special and the Shaggoth as a Rare. These are all just my opinion, like I saud at the start I think you've done a top job!

Now they are more exp (if u want the heavy armor) and are basically the same. Like the option for halberd though. Chaos spawn probably should be allowed to be taken in units Why is morghur gone from this book? Classic beastman special character Once again i love your work, but just keep in mind beastmen players have been saying for years they need more help. If you want to nerf things, herdstone, unkillable doombull. But the goats do not need an overall nerf. Gors are WS3 because of 2 reasons: Orcs are also WS3, and I see them as being equal fighters (Gors being somewhat better because of primal fury vs choppas).

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I'd lower it's cost to 450 and increase its T and W to 6. - Gutter Runners were one of the best units with 17 points per model in the originl book. Now they're at 14 points, that's way too cheap. Poison should stay at 5 points per model. - Brood Horror seems a little bit overpriced.

Anonymous I dont know if my last post got deleted or posted, but ill try again Longtime beastmen player here (200 games in 8th, multiple tournaments, leagues with the goats). I appreciate what your trying to do, and understand that when making a book if you nake it too powerful it wont be accepted by the community. However, beastmen are one of if not the weakest book of the warhammer armies. Some of the nerfs i felt were unnecessary such as Gors to ws3.why? Give them marks if you do this, i like the point drop though Chariots are still too vulnerable Ungors should be 1 point lower Razorgors have to be taken in units of 3? This defeats the purpose of the razorgor as a mobile unit who is not constrained since he could be taken as a single model Ghorgons need another point drop, blood greed has been nerfed along with regaining wounds for the guy Lore of the wild, though slightly improved, is still garbage and no one will take it over the other lores Minos are still too expensive, esp with the bloodgreed cap Biggest problem is bestigors. Bestigors are super expensive and die in droves in the current book.

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Updated: 16th Oct Changes are in the comments. There's a typo in your army list where the special rule for the Skavenslaves is written as 'Corned Rats' rather than 'Cornered Rats'. Also, you book seems to have suffered a bit from copy/paste syndrome. Here's a list of statline inconsistencies: *Usually a Lord version of a Wizard type character choice has +1 toughness over its hero counterpart which isn't the case in the Plaguepriest. *Plague Monks/Plague Priests/Plague Lords have I4 base for some reason, the reason that they are less initiative in other books is because their pestilential nature addles their reflexes. *The Master Moulder/Master Mutator have +2/+3 WS more than their Packmaster subordinates.

- It currently has it's official cost, but I do think it's a bit pricy. Will lower it to 175. - Abomination is also 15 pts more expensive and have a much higher chance of going berserk then before, but I'm fine with lowering it to 5W too. Thanks for the feedback! I agree to Miguel.

My suggestion: Let them choose the effect of Drunken, add a statement that they get a 6+ natural armour save because they are cavalry and include the light armour in the cost of 20 - 96 Chaos Trolls: Options for Great Weapons feel a bit odd here - 97 Cygor, Jabberslythe and Chaos Giant are still too expensive. Cygor would be fine with about 170 points, Jabberslythe needs 4+ scaly skin save and due to the loss of flying also a cost reduction to maybe 160 points. Don't know abot Ghorgon and Preyton right now; they both appear to be a little expensive as well due to the lack of any saving throws. As always, these are just my personal views on the rules and point costs:).

The book plays very similar to the last one, but I've tried to add some more options, as well as taken away some of the ones I did not feel fit very well with it. I would definitely not call myself an expert on Beastmen as I've only played against them a few times, but I've updated the points values on most units to be on par with other books (and cheaper in some cases). Changes are as follows: • Primal Fury does not give Frenzy on doubles. It only had a 1/36 chance to do so, and there are several ways to get frenzy already in the list.

Let me know of the usual bugs and other changes you like/hate or wish to see. It looks like the Empire is next, I'm a little disappointed that a lot of my suggestions weren't made use of but oh well. Here's my suggestions for the Empire: *Brace of Pistols with a Repeater Pistol becomes a Brace of Repeater Pistols. Has the Multiple Shots (6) special rule.

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• Chaos Trolls added. • Chaos Spawn special unit, 3D6M, 50 pts. • Preyton added, 175 pts. • Ghorgon 235 pts, Swallow Whole is in addition to normal A, regains 1W if successful. • Cygor 200 pts. • Jabberslythe has Hover instead of Fly, 200 pts. • Chaos Giant 175 pts.

*Gor units can purchase either Javelins or Throwing Axes for 2pt each. Free download mp3. *Wargors and Beastlords become BS4 and also have the option to take Javelins or Throwing Axes. *Gor units can purchase Light Armor for 1pt each. *Centigors have Drunken removed and replaced with Initiative 4.

Lesser Wolf Rats 'Though Clan Moulder often claim to create rats the size of wolves, it is rare indeed for them to supply other clans with the largest and strongest of this relatively stable breed. Those that are truly lupine are kept in spiked cages and fed on their own dead, so that when they are finally unleashed into the outside world they attack anything in their path in a bloody rage.' 'Wolf-Rat Another produce of the Clan Moulder's diabolic breeding program, the Wolf-rat combines the cunning and viciousness of a rat with the power and ferocity of a wolf. Used in packs led by Skaven animal handlers, these horrible beasts are known for their remorselessness in combat. Physique: Wolf-rats are about the same size and build as one of the great wolves of the Old World, and may be mistaken for wolves at a distance. Close up, though, their origins become clear. They have long, rat-like tails.

Primal Onslaught is added Lore Attribute. Hope you guys enjoy it!

Some good points and some not so good ones. Monsters are much better than they were and they're me realistic than the 9th age so no complaints there. I don't thing gnarled hide needs an increase but rather should stay at its 15 pts from the 7th ed Bestigor should have heavy armour idk he nerfed it they are the only troops with anything resembling an armour save in this book Monsters should never have a save really unless, now this would be awesome, he reworked the lore of the wild to give ward saves to monsters maybe spell slot 5 casting value 11-14 range 18'. Anonymous I dont know if my last post got deleted or posted, but ill try again Longtime beastmen player here (200 games in 8th, multiple tournaments, leagues with the goats). I appreciate what your trying to do, and understand that when making a book if you nake it too powerful it wont be accepted by the community.

*Winter Wolves and Sons of Ulric become Rare choices. *Knights Panther removed (they are already represented by knights wielding lances). *Extraneous units like Wolfkin, Sons of Ulric and Swords of Ulric get removed. The book looks really great! I just feel the rules still need a little fine-tuning.

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Giving the Plague Lord T6 would be way too much! - Plague Monks should have I3, yes. Plague Priests have I5, same as the last book, which is 2 more than a basic trooper of their kind. - They also had one attack less. I'm fine with nerfing their WS by 1 though.

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*Reiksguard Knights removed. Instead, upgrading Empire Knights to Inner Circle costs 5pts and also grants Stubborn. *Greatswords can be upgraded to S4.